tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787160331703156433.post4113486769916749027..comments2024-03-06T08:28:44.709+00:00Comments on Friends of the Boar: SECRETS OF THE BOAR NUMBER DEBATE AND ORGANISED POACHINGFriends of the Boarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15967173870514754401noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787160331703156433.post-20749866774091373392023-07-27T12:02:17.789+01:002023-07-27T12:02:17.789+01:00sivas
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Vİ2<a href="https://sivas.escortdocs.com/" title="sivas" rel="nofollow">sivas</a><br /><a href="https://trabzon.escortdocs.com/" title="trabzon" rel="nofollow">trabzon</a><br /><a href="https://hakkari.escortdocs.com/" title="hakkari" rel="nofollow">hakkari</a><br /><a href="https://kutahya.escortdocs.com/" title="kütahya" rel="nofollow">kütahya</a><br /><a href="https://malatya.escortdocs.com/" title="malatya" rel="nofollow">malatya</a><br />Vİ2ferdinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787160331703156433.post-4592257045154269512012-04-24T15:54:41.159+01:002012-04-24T15:54:41.159+01:00Hi Forest Imp, although I confess there is one par...Hi Forest Imp, although I confess there is one paragraph that may be confusing with regard to poachers as those who shoot on private land, I do not see any other confusion.<br /><br />We get lots of tip offs about poachers as well as legitimate shooters, and to distinguish between them is getting harder.<br /><br />Consider if someone owns a stretch of river and sells fishing rights. Is it poaching if another person either traps or poisons the fish before entering the stretch in question, and is it poaching if someone digs a channel to divert the river (and fish) into their own lake? I would yes it is.<br /><br />Poachers as well as private landowners are baiting or otherwise encouraging the wild boar to divert them from their natural wanderings and into the sights of a gun. And once on private land the gates are closed and the boar not allowed to return so easily. I can easily imagine that many boar are trapped like this to be sold at a high price to organised shoots.<br /><br />What is really puzzling is the sheer lack of boar diggings in the wider countryside around the Forest of Dean. If we are to believe the poachers and Forestry Commission about boar deaths outside the forest, then we should be seeing a hell of a lot of boar diggings on farmland. We are not. There is really only 2 conclusions – the poachers and FC are making it all up, or the boar are making beelines to bait without stopping on route. <br /><br />If yourself or anyone has ANY evidence right NOW of boar diggings on FARMLAND OUTSIDE of the main Forest of Dean, let me know as I desperately want some photos of it – I have requests for this subject all the time from editors!<br /><br />And of course, once trapped on this land, a poacher may also try to steal it – hence poaching on private land! We have at least two leads to support this, one from ex-Councillor Frazer (who has given his permission for us to quote him as a witness to poaching) who owns some orphaned wild boar (some rescued from bungled poaching / trapping incidents). He has had several attempts by some people to free his boar, presumably for the purposes of shooting them for profit.<br /><br />I agree with you that many legitimate shooters are law abiding. But what is strange to me is that I know these shooters mix with poachers, and each knows who the other is. If legitimate shooters do care about conserving wild boar, then why the silence from them? The Forestry Commission says nothing to deter poachers, same with the police, and the same with the legitimate shooting fraternity.<br /><br />The other blurred lines with which you remark is firearms and wildlife legislation. I know this is straying from topic but since you added it to the debate I will add this - Every gun is licenced specifically to shoot boar. But what is sufficiently deemed to be capable is only laid down in government guidelines and not law. Therefore, we have landowners and poachers who do try to use 12-bore shotguns, for example, to kill wild boar – a totally dangerous practice for them and the public.<br /><br />A farmer may also stab or poison or maim a wild boar, if, as you say, he subjectively considers his precious crops may be under threat from a nearby or foraging boar. The wildlife laws you claim are in place with regard to animal welfare (The Mammal Act and Wildlife & Countryside Act) are totally inept to prevent cruelty and misuse of firearms when shooting such a wild boar on private land. <br /><br />[As an aside, I also find it amusingly hypocritical that we are socially trained to care so much about the farmers’ livelihood, when they pollute our rivers and water sources with run-off, spray our air with pesticides, and invade our noses with poisonous ammonia from rotting heaps].<br /><br />For this reason, we are also campaigning with others around the country, for the government to enact legislation for firearms to kill wild boar – because at present there is none. I hope this clears up that matter anyway.<br /><br />I’m sure this response will only fuel more questions and debate, so please keep them coming in.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DaveFriends of the Boarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15967173870514754401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787160331703156433.post-2938353867493745612012-04-12T21:40:54.833+01:002012-04-12T21:40:54.833+01:00I have seen the FC Rangers out shooting squirrels ...I have seen the FC Rangers out shooting squirrels in these areas, with shotguns. This is not them, shooting boar. <br /><br />I cannot work out what Dave is getting at, this time. There are still lots of boar in the forest. I see them on my regular wanders through the Dean, every day. They are somewhat wilder than they used to be, but they are still there in good numbers.<br /><br />Shooting of boar on the outside of the forest(ie not by the FC), is, as Dave said, unregulated. Boar are not protected in the same way, as other "Sporting Species" (eg deer, pheasants, ducks) with Closed Seasons (protected times of year, when they can not be killed). But, Boar are protected under general wildlife laws, which cover methods for control and animal welfare/cruelty. <br /><br />If the boar are to live, as a native species, outside of FC ground, it is up to the public, to voice their concerns to their MP about the inclusion of Boar within the UK's Game Legislation. This would protect them at sensitive times of the year (Feb-July for rearing their young for example), but enable them to be managed, as a legitimate and respected species by the sporting fraternity. This can be reviewed, as was the Deer Act (a couple of years ago), to see how the species is doing.<br /><br />Poaching and legitimate shooting are getting confused in Dave's article and this is not good. Poaching of animals is done by people, who do not have the permission of the landowner or their agent to carry out this act, even when it is done by legitimate means (ie shooting). The shooting of animals by legitimate hunters with permission, by legal means is OK. I say OK, as it may not sit well with some of us, as their motives are not in line with ours. This said, we must understand that Boar may not be welcome everywhere they may travel. <br /><br />Boar are a woodland animal, but are very adaptive in their utilisation of other habitats. This can get them into a pickle with farmers. The Dean is surrounded by hard working farmers. Their crops and their livestock are their livelihood. They can and need to keep the Boar population, which is resident in the Dean area at a level, which does not endanger their living.This must be done legally and humanely by skilled and dedicated hunters with the right weapons. <br /><br />I guess in a way the FC must also take a responsible line in trying to keep this population of Boar inside the forest boundary, for the benefit of it's neighbours. It must also consider that it is a Public Forest, where the public can walk freely. Unlike the private farms/estates, where there is limited access via footpaths,bridleways,etc. The Boar population must not become tame and thus lose it's fear of man. Everyone wants to see the Boar and other wonderful wildlife in the Forest of Dean. But we must understand that it cannot become a safari park of semi-tame wild animals for our pleasure. It is not good for the wildlife and it will not satisfy our interest in them for long. Soon, if we are unlucky, will come the petting zoo.....So be careful what you wish for!!?forest imphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650114914790165959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787160331703156433.post-73042406952387216932012-03-29T13:03:36.434+01:002012-03-29T13:03:36.434+01:00Blimey - I knew there were some dodgy goings on bu...Blimey - I knew there were some dodgy goings on but did not realise quite how bad it is. I have heard a lot of gun shots in the past 2 or 3 weeks mostly in the 'central' forest area, Kensley, Dilke, Woorgreens area - or at least that is where is seemed to be coming from. Not at night but in the mornings around 8 to 10am.Matt Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02070763028434220067noreply@blogger.com